An interview with Sway from Freedom Or Death - January 11th, 2011

by Myles LaCavera

www.myspace.com/freedomordeathmusic

It’s funny sometimes what you’ll find in your own backyard.  It’s no secret to the world that Toronto is chock full of sublimely talented indie rockers, folk heroes, and electro skids, but every once in a while something new comes along that really peaks your interest. 

Freedom Or Death is a mixing bowl of not just Toronto’s but the world’s best, and they come with their own manifesto!  Pop sensibility, a couple acoustic guitars, synths ad drum machines, dancing shoes and some lyrical heart add up to success for this Toronto duo.  If you like everything, you’ll like Freedom or Death – it’s a music lovers band, and the EP packs tight six remarkably mature tracks including a Pink cover! 

I know, “What?!” you say, “Have they gone crazy?!”  No, we’re fine around the ol’ Lithium office – we haven’t flipped our wigs in some post-holiday Turkey toxification.  Through the amazing magic of the internet we got some answers out of Sway, FoD’s vocalist, about covers (both musical and physical), influences and aspirations.  Check. It. Out.

Myles – Let’s get this right out of the way… why a Pink cover?

Sway – Why not a P!nk Cover? We’re a fan of all music, but suckers for pop as well.  P!nk has always been an artist that was able to walk that fine line of credible pop music, and she’s always had a very dark and demonic tone to her lyrics, which we admire.

M – With the idea of “Freedom Or Death” you guys have set out a demanding goal for your band, do you feel like your living up to the expectations of those ideals?

S – Well, I think for us to evaluate that we would have to be years into the future looking back on what we’ve done with our careers. Our mantra is more of a lifestyle rather than just isolated choices, so I think it’s difficult to determine that within just a few months of releasing our first record.  But with what we’ve done thus far, I would say we are well on our way.

M – I really like the quote: “We know what sold, we know how to make it, but we decided not to make it.”  I think that can be tougher to set out to do than just trying to come up with your own sound for a band.  Do you ever find yourselves making a conscious decision to turn away from a certain direction even though your instinct might take you one way say with song structure, lyrics, or sounds?

S – For sure, I think it’s easy to get lazy and produce music with the conventional format and in some ways we don’t want to break that convention. Chorus, verses, breakdowns still work, but for us, those can be innovative and simply boring.  We are from the school of songwriting and song structure being key, so in that respect we may not reinvent the wheel because we don’t believe it to be broken, but lyrically, rhythmically or sonically, we will always push the envelope and be as open as possible.

M – Are you guys still working at major labels?

S – No, that’d be just weird.

M – You’ve expressed interest in working with like minded artists, who are a couple at the top of your list?

S – We’d love to work with some Canadian artists like Arcade Fire or even Drake would be interesting, but not just musicians, guys like David Fincher or David Cronenberg.  I can’t say for sure, but I’m convinced that most of the artists we adore have had a community of visual or photographic artists that can interpret their music and help to create fascinating artistic visuals to accompany their work.  We’re definitely into those types of collaborations.
 
M – Listening to the EP I thought I could pick out some influences but you can tell me whether I’m off base or not.
-    I thought “Back For More” started with a bit of Thom Yorke solo material beat and picked up some TV On The Radio vibe.
-    The final refrain in “Meter Maid” reminded me a bit of those odd moments that are sometimes taken up by Bono and The Edge when it’s just the two of them with vocals and an acoustic.

S – Hah. I don’t think you’re off base at all. Radiohead and U2 have definitely influenced us; however, the TVOTR comparison always throws us off because neither of us really listens to their stuff.  I mean, I more than Fernandez appreciate them, but we’re not sure how their sound seeped into our music.

M – Many artists start out being compared to other more established artists before making it on their own right.  Is it a goal of FoD at all to become a band that others are eventually compared to?

S – I think every artist would hope for the same thing. The goal of artists is to make musical, even cultural impacts and to have people use your music as a reference point means that you’ve accomplished your goal….unless, of course, they’re comparing it in terms of how terrible something is.  Then that’s just unfortunate.

M – One of my favorite moments on the EP is when a ragged arpeggio kicks in on “Soldier”; do you have a favorite song or moment on the disc?

S – I think Fernandez’ favorite moment is in Lost in Dances, but for me it’s This Crowded Room. I love performing the arpeggio in Soldier live, although the end of TCR always moves me—hence, why we try to end sets with it.  It’s just so beautiful and fluid.

M – Is that a banjo in “Back For More”?  Is it a conscious decision to keep a balance between digital and organic elements in your music?

S – Yeah, that is a banjo. I recorded it simply because it was in the room and thought that it’d stand out between all the reverb and delay. I wasn’t sure if it’d work, but when Fernandez dug it as well, I was like, “Of course, I meant to do that!” We do believe that organic instruments are a staple in music, no matter how much midi and sequencing we use to adorn the music, there always needs to be an element of natural sound and timber in there.

M – You’ve talked about the importance of lyrics and if I was to really generalize you seem to look at the human condition from a personal perspective, and you stay close to some accessible, universal human concerns.  I think it’s rare that a band says openly that they take their lyrics seriously, is it a point to draw attention to them?

S – Although we normally write lyrics last, they are the most important to us. Words are what represent you and what you stand for.  Fernandez and I sit around talking a lot about life; its experiences; its lessons and its challenges. For us, like most people I’m sure, those conversations are important and yeah, we’d like to draw attention to that aspect in our music.  I think there is a time to dance, play and loose control, essentially that’s hip-hop today, but for Freedom or Death, those universal human concerns govern our thoughts, so we do hope that others connect with them.

M – I like the cover art for the EP.  Who put it together, and is it two Polar Bear heads?  Any significance for the band?

S – Yeah, that’s a polar bear.  No particular significance other than we thought it looked cool.  I was waiting for people to start making “Canada” “Polar Bear” references and connections, but I’m surprised no comments were made. Hah! We got the logo silk screened, then we hand crafted and stamped every package - a long arduous process, but fun nonetheless.

M – You’ll have to explain how the Spike Jonze video came into play, why was it chosen?

S – We have always been huge fans of Spike Jonze and we were quite jealous when Arcade Fire started working with him.  Lost in Dances is actually inspired by the short film, so it only made sense to sync the two together.  We’re still waiting for Spike to call us and tell us to take it down.

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